State management (NLP)

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Same reasons as recent Afd: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anchoring (NLP) Famousdog 12:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for much the same reasons (poor sourcing, promotional or SP sources, fringe topic, notability concerns, etc):

NLP University (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Sleight of mouth (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Future Pacing (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Covert hypnosis (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Real People Press (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

... and these articles about non- or barely-notable NLP authors:

David Gordon (psychologist) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Connirae Andreas (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Steve Andreas (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Leslie Cameron-Bandler (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Judith DeLozier (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Robert Dilts (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Stephen Gilligan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Fazal Inayat-Khan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Shelle Rose Charvet (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Famousdog 12:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Delete per WP:UNDUE and WP:PSCI - Because ... "If a viewpoint is held by an extremely small (or vastly limited) minority, it does not belong in Wikipedia regardless of whether it is true or not and regardless of whether you can prove it or not, except perhaps in some ancillary article."  

  OBO   α  ω    19:32, 21 August 2017 (UTC) 

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:41, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Added more not-particularly-notable NLPers, notable only for using WP to promote themselves. Famousdog 11:28, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. Famousdog 07:39, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 15:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep all There seem to be numerous sources covering the concept of state management such as Gower Handbook of Leadership and Management Development; Ahead of the Game; NLP for Project Managers; &c. There are obvious alternatives to deletion such as merger with the main article about NLP or a similar article such as mood management theory. It therefore seems that WP:BEFORE has not been followed and we should not delete a large heterogeneous bundle without such due diligence. Warden (talk) 09:54, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Comment Are any of these "numerous sources" you mention RS or are they all books? These various articles do not seem to be about notable enough aspects NLP (already a niche topic) to deserve their own entries. There is also very little well-sourced and informative material to salvage. Some articles (Future pacing) have only single sources, usually a business website. Most of them (NLP University, State management) are simply unsourced stubs. Some other more lengthy articles (Sleight of mouth) are context- and discussion-free lists of examples ("...most of the understanding will follow from working through examples, and seeing how these are applied..."). They do not explain the very concepts they purport to be about and WP is WP:NOT a how-to manual. Finally, very few other articles link to these (or rather, they all link to each other, creating a WP:WALLEDGARDEN) and I am positive that the readership of WP would not miss them. Famousdog 11:12, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
      • NLP for Project Managers is published by the British Computer Society which is a respectable professional body. More generally, what you're effectively trying to do here is speedy delete this bundle of topics. Please deal with them separately using that process, which is described at WP:CSD. Warden (talk) 11:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
      • (after edit conflict) Are you claiming that books cannot be reliable sources? And the ones listed by Colonel Warden are not self-published, including one published by the British Computer Society. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:57, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Merge articles on NLP topics to Neuro-linguistic programming: having all these separate articles seems excessive coverage especially when they're short. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:25, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
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