Monametsi Kelebale

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. Contest rationale was here he is playing in the Africa Cup of Nations, which is at least a little more notable than the "fully professional" League Two, wouldn't you agree? However, I do not agree. Notability is not a measure of quality or importance, but of coverage, of which Mr. Kelebe has had almost none. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:32, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete No proof he even played a game in the tournament, not notable Seasider91 (talk) 16:36, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete - previous consensus at two AfDs - 1, 2 - established that being a squad member at the ACN was not enough. This player fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL - non-notable. GiantSnowman 13:37, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete – has he actually played in the African Cup of Nations or done anything else besides sitting on the bench? No, so he fails WP:NFOOTY. Add the non-existent significant coverage in independent reliable sources and he fails WP:GNG as well. Kosm1fent 13:39, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Weak delete - I could only find two paragraphs dedicated to Kelebale here, so I don't think the article can pass the GNG. Jogurney (talk) 14:19, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Comment - I may have spoken too soon. The Monitor has quite a few in-depth articles on Kelebale, and this one suggests he had played for the national team before being injured in 2007, although I've been unable to confirm that he played in a FIFA "A" international. Jogurney (talk) 14:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Has nobody actually looked at the reference that I added when contesting WP:PROD deletion? It is published by FIFA, and clearly says that Kelebale did play in the African Cup of Nations. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:38, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • But Phil Koms1fents link says otherwise, it just says he sat on the bench all game which doesn't count towards notability i'm afraidSeasider91 (talk) 16:42, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Which is the more reliable source, FIFA or Soccerway? And the FIFA source comes with photographic evidence. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:01, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
The caption on the photo is wrong. The Botswanan player in the photo is wearing shirt #13, meaning he is actually Mafoko Boitumelo. The CAF's official match report (found here) confirms that Mr. Boitumelo played in the match against Mali, while Mr. Kelebale, shirt #15, did not. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Good observation, Sir Sputnik. Confirmed by Soccerway as well. Kosm1fent 04:58, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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