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Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. DℬigXray 16:51, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Article fails WP:GNG. There is only one source which has in depth coverage of the topic (although its dead). The dead link is not an issue, but the article has no other source having in depth coverage. This article can be also merged with Media curbs and usage of social networking sites in Kashmir, but I doubt if it is notable enough for that. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 16:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Comment After the nomination at AfD the article has been edited and its now claimed to be an article for a song. As clearly mentioned below the article has to pass WP:NSONG for it to stay, as evident this is not a notable song as the reliable sources only make a bare mention of the title or lyrics making it suitable only for the singer MC Kash's article which already mentions this. The article still fails notability requirements and can be deleted--DℬigXray 16:46, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:19, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
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  • Keep: - this nomination is actually funny, the whole article is blanked [1] and then nominated. The protest is definitely notable and to removing it would just be a pro Indian government censorship. --lTopGunl (talk) 22:13, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Are you kidding? Reasons have been given for every removal. Don't try to take this AfD to another direction. Talk about how does this meet the WP:GNG. Such comments clarifies that the sole purpose of this article is to push POV. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 05:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
  • comment TopGun please refer Wikipedia:Arguments_to_avoid_in_deletion_discussions#Personal_point_of_view. Mocking the nominator by calling it Funny is yet another conduct issue, if you feel that article was wrongly cleaned up then follow the steps in WP:BURDEN with proper wp:RS. Sound reasoning has been given above for the deletion. Also the comment that removing it would just be a pro Indian government censorship is pure POV disregarding WP:N, if we agree with your comment then we must have a "Wiki article for every Facebook group that Hates India" shouldnt we ? The articles here are kept only if they follow WP:GNG not due to Indian or Pakistani POV as claimed above. --DℬigXray 09:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
You guys got it right, it is a conduct issue when you nominate articles for deletion without making any good faith attempt to look for a source your self. Yes, I know about WP:BURDEN, but I didn't write anything in this page either... and I was pointing out that it was being nominated due to a personal view (ironic). As for actual content related reasons, other users below have cleared that burden I think. WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a reason to delete content. --lTopGunl (talk) 04:27, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
We might have started on the wrong foot, but I'll sincerely advise you not to use the word baseless unless it is unambiguous. It gets inflammatory. Just an advise, your choice. --lTopGunl (talk) 04:27, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Mar4d none of your source mentions I Protest, the Facebook group. The arguements you gave hold for Media curbs and usage of social networking sites in Kashmir and not for the Facebook group article I Protest--DℬigXray 12:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep The topic is surely notable. First the articles is missing much facts, that I found. Actually I Protest was a rap song by MC Kash, that was followed by this e-campaign named "I Protest". And I find it notable according to GNG per these source: pp. 81, 105, 113, 115, [2], [3], [4], [5]. --SMS Talk 17:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I am afraid to say that all your efforts to save this POV pushing article are not working. Please read relevant policies like WP:NSONG. It clearly says,"Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." This song doesn't meets any of them. Most sources have just a mention of the song, and some include lyrics. None of them have a critical commentary, and therefore what this article can be, is a redirect to MC Kash. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 07:24, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
    The sources I gave above are enough for this criteria but try WP:BEFORE, you will find many more. --SMS Talk 08:15, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Let me correct you, this article fails WP:NSONG. You may like to cross check:have been ranked on national or significant music charts (completely fails), have won significant awards or honors (again fails) and have been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands or groups (fails). And as of other sources, I can't find even a single reliable source which has in-depth coverage of the song. The WP:BURDEN is upon you, please prove how this article meets the notability criteria. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 08:27, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
    Ok I thought that I dumped off the burden by providing the above sources as they talk about the subject in detail and are reliable sources. Should I quote content from these source? --SMS Talk 12:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
  • They just name the song. Please try to understand that song articles are not created to be a stub. All sources which you have given doesn't talk about the song much. Some of them have lyrics, but they can't be added on Wikipedia due to copyright. WP:NSONG clearly says,"a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album." As of quoting the source, I am doing that for you.
  1. 1st source-Only the lyrics of the song, all other mention is about the author
  2. 2nd source-only minor mentions of the song
  3. 3rd source-again only minor mentions of the song
  4. 4th source-only the lyrics
  5. 5th source-just one minor mention.
Hope that clarifies why this article doesn't meets WP:NSONG. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 13:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
I think you missed the content I was referring in some of the above source, see the excerpts below please:
I hope you find the in-depth coverage now. Again these are only some of the sources and there are scores of them out there, like: [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14]. Some of these may mention about the song but some also cover in detail. I hope that you will find the relevant text, otherwise ping me and I will put quotes here whenever I find time. Cheers! --SMS Talk 21:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete As per WP:NSONG...the times of India link doesn't work.No other sources explain the song's cause and it's reason in detail.The whole background section is WP:OR with no references given what-so-ever. Better to merge it with MC Kash article. ƬheⱾtrikeҾagle 07:42, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. SMS Talk 08:19, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep Ample coverage of this song found. Dream Focus 03:04, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, →TSU tp* 07:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, →TSU tp* 07:12, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting comment Comment - This was the last re-list →TSU tp* 07:13, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep – The song has received significant coverage in various global reliable publications, and as such passes WP:NSONG and WP:GNG. Source examples include:
Northamerica1000(talk) 06:56, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
  • The references above are already a part of the artist MC Kash. The rationale given only supports redirection to the artists page. The article still fails WP:NSONG --DBigXray 07:13, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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