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Just looking through the new teams being added for the new season that have reached level 10 for the first time and have found many new club articles being made in the Central Midlands League at level 11. The articles have been contributed by User:Rillington, and some of the new articles should definitely be kept (Athersley Recreation, Cleethorpes Town, Basford United) as they have, or will soon, play at level 10, or played in the FA Cup. However, I cannot find any evidence of notability for the rest, which is a shame as Rillington is obviously an able wikipedian but is a new user who may not be aware of WP:NFOOTY, which is a rule of thumb for WP:GNG as it applies to Football. This aside, I nominate the following teams as, so far as I can tell, they have not played in a level higher than they are currently, nor have they competed in the FA Cup or the FA Vase. Delsion23 (talk) 19:26, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Belper United F.C. (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Southwell City F.C. (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Dronfield Town F.C. (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Welbeck Colliery Welfare F.C. (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Thoresby Colliery Welfare F.C. (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Easington United A.F.C. (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Westella & Willerby F.C. (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Nottingham United F.C. (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Thoresby and Welbeck have both been subject to a previous Afd here.

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Delsion23 (talk) 19:32, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Delsion23 (talk) 19:38, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment It's difficult to know what to say in all honesty and I waited a while before producing a reply rather than writing in haste.

I had a previous article deleted on the grounds that it was too low in the footballing pyramid. I did think about withdrawing my efforts at that time but decided to take it on the chin on the grounds of being new to this and having not previously been aware of the football notability rule due to the team in question playing in a local(ish) league and for some reason it has been decided that clubs at this level are not worthy of articles which to me goes against the grain of a project whose goal is to produce an online encyclopedia which is as comprehensive as possible. The CML is not a local league as it covers a significant area of both the North Midlands and Yorkshire.

To explain why I decided to write the CML articles in the first place despite them being at level 11. First I had not previously been aware of the level 10 rule. However, I had seen that a number of CML teams had articles written about them, albeit in a few cases just a couple of sentences with no external references. None of these articles seemed to pose a problem so I nievely assumed that users would welcome someone taking the time and effort to, as far as possible, complete the set assuming that enough material could be sourced to produce articles which were deemed to be acceptable. Clearly I am wrong in this assumption despite me ensuring that all the articles had external references which could be checked should people see this as necessary. Therefore, I cannot prevent these articles being deleted should it be decided that I have intentionally broken the notability rules even though others ahve not bene punished in the same way.

That aside, we are talking about many hours of time, effort and research over the last month to produce articles of a good standard and I suddenly log in and find that all of this work may well count for nothing as people want these articles deleted. Nobody is forced to write these articles and it is hardly an insentive for anyone to do this when they are 'rewarded' with their articles being deleted en masse. I have noted that the user proposing my articles being deleted described me as "obviously an able wikipedian" but I think most people would be upset to see that it seemingly is the desire for this amount of time and effort to count for nothing due to the proposal of the deletion of the overwhealming amount of time and effort I have put into the website over the past month. Therefore, I have concluded that if these articles are deleted then it would be inappropriate for me to continue contributing to wikipedia, not least because anyone looking at my contributions page will just see a list of deleted articles and I would feel very embarassed knowing that this failure could be viewed by anyone using wikipedia to read about non league football. I would therefore want the removal of everything else I have contributed so that wherever possible all traces of my efforts is removed from wikipedia to remove the embarassment of people being able to see that almost all of my efforts have been deleted. As it is my talk page is dominated by deletion propsals and that is bad enough but for almost every article that I have written to be deleted would be all the more humiliating and upsetting which is why I would want everything that I have ever done deleted should it be decided to remove all these articles. Hopefully my efforts will not be scrapped and I shall follow this discussion with interest.(Rillington (talk) 09:18, 23 June 2012 (UTC))

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