Chile–Peru football rivalry

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I seek to have a debate about the relevance of this article as there's strong evidence to suggest that this rivalry isn't mutual on the football field. This article cites many Peruvian sources which isn't overly balanced and the only neutral site the one coming from Malaysia only suggests that a war once occurred between the two nations but fails to conclusively suggest if this rivalry actually resonates to the football field. I can write more but I wish to keep this introduction short. Overall most Chileans don't consider Peru as a rival. Chelios123 (talk) 09:06, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Keep. CNN in 2008 had this on a list of the "Top 10 international rivalries". This 2006 AP article about Chilean foreign affairs mentions the "heated rivalries over soccer matches" between Chile and Peru. This brief item in the Sunday Mail (Scotland) "describes them as "bitter rivals" and mentions that the Chilean team bus was stoned when it played in Peru in 2001. Here is Nolberto Solano in The Independent in 1999 describing Chile as Peru's "greatest rivals". I note that the history of this article indicates that substantial sourced portions (notably about the disagreement between the countries over who invented the bicycle kick, which is mentioned in the CNN list and discussed in our article about the history of the bicycle kick) have been deleted, rather than improved as they might have been. On the other hand, the current sections describing the Chile and Peru team histories, without reference to the rivalry, seem a bit off the point. --Arxiloxos (talk) 15:34, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
those are vaild sources however it still goes outside the scope of "football rivalry". Most of the information on this article is only valid for the chile-peru relations page. Like I said before the football contest between chile and peru doen't resonate huge feelings of rivalry in Chilean society and ONLY seems to affect Peruvians e.g the stoning incident in Lima. If the sense of Rivalry isn't mutual then its NOT a rivalry. The Nolberto solano quote only contributes to the Peruvian POV and the CNN source still doesn't explain football related issues on the field e.g Notable games or famous incidents. The scope of this article is about "football rivalry" and sadly everything in this article except the table of the results goes outside the scope of "football rivalry". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chelios123 (talkcontribs) 10:04, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
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