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Article about a non-notable boxer currently ranked 187th in his division by boxrec.com (21st in the UK). He does not meet the notability criteria at WP:NSPORTS#Boxing and his unsourced appearance at the world championships was as a junior, which does not show notability.

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Jakejr (talk) 04:52, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I would hazard to say that the main editor is one and the same with the subject. Peter Rehse (talk) 13:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

  • I have to mention here that I am the writer of this page and i am not Bradley. I love to watch boxing and that's why i write this page. Some days ago after almost finishing this one i find that the username "Superskeete" is available to use and take it. Please, don't treat this in such a way. I find lots of pages for boxers who ranked lower than Bradley on Wiki. Superskeete (talk) 17:34, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
I put this up for deletion because he doesn't meet the notability criteria for boxers, not because of possible COI issues. The fact that other non-notable boxers have articles falls under WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Jakejr (talk) 20:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I communicate with Bradley for having the right to use his name and get proper information. You can also check the compliment James DeGale made about Bradley here.[1][2] He was the gold medalist of 2008 Beijing | Middleweight. I just tried to develop the true things and if there is any mistake (As i am new on Wiki) you should suggest but not asking to delete my writing. At least show this help. I think you should read this again Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers. If i need to make any changes please, suggest and i will follow to improve my skill to help Wikipedia.

Please, help me to do better, Jakejr. Superskeete (talk) 20:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I am not biting a newcomer, but that doesn't mean a new editor can write without regard to WP criteria. I don't know how I can help you because the issue isn't your writing, it's that your subject doesn't meet the notability standards for boxers. Neither of us can create notability when it's not there. Jakejr (talk) 23:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • OK. I agreed with you that he is not notable but he is one of the most popular and rising boxing star in England. I think he deserve a wikipedia page. Can't he have a page in any other category where notability is not the major fact? Please, share your opinion, Jakejr. Superskeete (talk) 06:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Notability is always a factor because it is a cornerstone of Wikipedia. You might want to look at WP:N. Papaursa (talk) 20:16, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

How about a boxing in England article - a section on up and coming boxers could be included.Peter Rehse (talk) 08:42, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

  • I really don't understand your suggestion. Should i write a new article about Boxing in England and add a section on Up and Coming Boxers? Bradley is not a coming boxer. he is a professional boxer and ranked 21st in his category. And also please, suggest me how could I close this discussion so that the message will not show on the top? Superskeete (talk) 09:31, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
  • We are trying to be helpful but basically this is a deletion debate which will be closed and acted on by someone with the power to do so. Not any of those who have commented before. If the article is deleted you could re-create the article when your subject becomes notable but right now I would vote delete on WP:NSPORTS#Boxing.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:44, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Can't it be moved to some other categories that will not ask for the notability according to WP:NSPORTS#Boxing? Still i am voting to KEEP the page.Superskeete (talk) 06:13, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
It's in that category because he's a boxer. If he's notable in some other field than you need to show that. Papaursa (talk) 20:16, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Delete I agree with the nom--there's nothing to show notability. This seems pretty clear cut since even the article's author agrees the subject isn't yet notable. Papaursa (talk) 20:16, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Keep I also agree with the rules but Bradley is really a popular and rising boxer in UK. He deserve a Wiki page. Please, don't delete this and list this in the category of upcoming boxers in UK. He has a notable ranking in his category and continuously upgrading his position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.234.116.184 (talk) 17:34, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Being ranked 187th in your division is not a notable ranking, nor is being #21 in the UK. Papaursa (talk) 23:41, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
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