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This fictional character has (a) no assertion of notability, and (b) no reliable or in-depth third party references to support its content. If this character is deleted, I will also make a bundled deletion proposal for Supporting Characters in Template:Wotnav Exeva (talk) 15:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

  • Weak Keep. I am certainly sympathetic to this nomination; there are overtones of WP:Cruft here and all these supporting character articles could use a good paring, I think. I thought the most appropriate comparator would be the Harry Potter series, which is somewhat analogous in size and complexity -- although I suspect that the WoT series in total is much larger. Harry Potter pages are in place for "major characters" like Severus Snape but supporting characters, some 40 of them, are relegated to a single long page; I think this is a good analogy for the notability question posed by the nominator in that a handful of characters are notable and dozens of others are not. The trouble is that the WoT series is so immense that a character like Aviendha actually appears on the same number of pages (or has the same number of words written about her) as would be appropriate for the protagonist of a single "regular" novel. Thus I suspect that if one created a page for Supporting characters in the WoT series it would be massively unwieldy. The existing situation, with sub-pages and a navbox, seems like a reasonable compromise for utility to me; to continue the analogy to Harry Potter, I think there are a dozen or so major characters and -- good heavens, hundreds of supporting characters. I think the third-party references can be solved by pointing all such pages to a "companion" volume such as The World of Robert Jordan's the Wheel of Time by Jordan himself -- doubtless there are others, or there will be once the series is complete. And notability -- well, volumes 8 through 13 of the series have all spent time at #1 on the NYT best-seller list. Certainly some of the characters are notable, and I suggest that the supporting character listing in the navbox is a reasonable take on inherent notability. Ubelowme (talk) 21:54, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
    • A note on your later arguments: yes, Wheel of Time has been a New York Times #1 best selling, but no, notability is not inherited. Unless there is some independent claim to notability (eg critics talking about how Aviendha has influenced female characters in fantasy) the character does not merit an article. As for the question of which of the dozens of characters listed there deserve documentation, and how they should be organized: that belongs to a later AfD. this is about Aviendha. (talk) 08:43, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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